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Omglol 2,719 pts

UEFA Champions League - Dinamo Zagreb vs Arsenal - 16 September 2015

Posted by Omglol over 1 year ago · 19 replies

Arsenal team : Cech, Monreal, Gabriel, Koscielny, Debuchy, Arteta, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Ozil, Sanchez, Walcott, Giroud, Ospina, Cazorla, Campbell, Gibbs, Coquelin, Chambers, Flamini.

Ramsey, Bellerin and Per were left in London.

Dinamo are undefeated in 11 months or 41 games.

Judging from last night and Dinamo form, everything can happen, i hope we don't underestimate them as we usually do.

19 Comments

STUART 486 pts
Posted over 1 year ago by STUART

When asked about how Wenger is in the dressing room, Martin Keown said that Wenger would be very calm and getting his point across. He wouldn't call for urgency or having an angry rant at a poor performance. This is a huge problem for me. When everyone is in form and playing well, freedom is a good premise. But when you're struggling, the manager needs to be more strict and tell his player what needs to be done. Losing against Dinamo at half-time means you now have to shout at your players and tell them exactly how to solve it. Not coddle them and tell them how great they're doing.

I do not agree. Shouting only works with certain players. Wenger is about a trusting environment and building belief. A player should not fear failure in his system but be driven to succeed. If a player is too afraid to express themselves and their ability they end up playing well within themselves.

Wenger's weakness is not this methodology, but his appropriation of this on inadequate players. With the best Squad his style is the best for long term success. If he was tactically strong and was prepared to spend money we would dominate.

Morleys Mesut Özil > You and your mum, chief 4,285 pts
Posted over 1 year ago by Morleys

Would be happy if Giroud never played a match for Arsenal again. We literally looked so much more fluid once he was off the pitch. Theo > Alexis > Welbz > Özil false 9 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Giroud

poodris 2,259 pts
Posted over 1 year ago by poodris

Would be happy if Giroud never played a match for Arsenal again. We literally looked so much more fluid once he was off the pitch. Theo > Alexis > Welbz > Özil false 9 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Giroud

is you and your mum, chief > lamppost?

AWassist 1,459 pts
Posted over 1 year ago by AWassist

Would be happy if Giroud never played a match for Arsenal again. We literally looked so much more fluid once he was off the pitch. Theo > Alexis > Welbz > Özil false 9 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Giroud

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STUART 486 pts
Posted over 1 year ago by STUART

Ozil did actually score a goal that was ruled offside. I don't really think that it was as bad as it felt when I look back.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 13,238 pts
Posted over 1 year ago by Ix Techau

I think there are two fundamental issues here.

  1. Wenger wants Arsenal to be Barcelona, but he seems unable to grasp the difference between pass-based possession and pressing-based possession. Barca did the latter, not the former. Barca didn't have 70% possession in every game because they passed the ball well, they had it because the second they lost the ball, they worked at 300% urgency to win it back. Arsenal doesn't do this. We have possession because we pass the ball sideways for 90 minutes.

  2. When asked about how Wenger is in the dressing room, Martin Keown said that Wenger would be very calm and getting his point across. He wouldn't call for urgency or having an angry rant at a poor performance. This is a huge problem for me. When everyone is in form and playing well, freedom is a good premise. But when you're struggling, the manager needs to be more strict and tell his player what needs to be done. Losing against Dinamo at half-time means you now have to shout at your players and tell them exactly how to solve it. Not coddle them and tell them how great they're doing.

STUART 486 pts
Posted over 1 year ago by STUART

When asked about how Wenger is in the dressing room, Martin Keown said that Wenger would be very calm and getting his point across. He wouldn't call for urgency or having an angry rant at a poor performance. This is a huge problem for me. When everyone is in form and playing well, freedom is a good premise. But when you're struggling, the manager needs to be more strict and tell his player what needs to be done. Losing against Dinamo at half-time means you now have to shout at your players and tell them exactly how to solve it. Not coddle them and tell them how great they're doing.

I do not agree. Shouting only works with certain players. Wenger is about a trusting environment and building belief. A player should not fear failure in his system but be driven to succeed. If a player is too afraid to express themselves and their ability they end up playing well within themselves.

Wenger's weakness is not this methodology, but his appropriation of this on inadequate players. With the best Squad his style is the best for long term success. If he was tactically strong and was prepared to spend money we would dominate.

AWassist 1,459 pts
Posted over 1 year ago by AWassist

I do not agree. Shouting only works with certain players. Wenger is about a trusting environment and building belief. A player should not fear failure in his system but be driven to succeed. If a player is too afraid to express themselves and their ability they end up playing well within themselves.

True That! Shouting on "employees" does not help. You need to use that weapon only occasionally.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 13,238 pts
Posted over 1 year ago by Ix Techau

I do not agree. Shouting only works with certain players. Wenger is about a trusting environment and building belief. A player should not fear failure in his system but be driven to succeed.

Ok, but this is clearly not working. Should he continue doing things that clearly don't work? What is the percentage of a calm uninspiring half-time talk ever bailing us out of trouble?

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