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Gunner Gunners fire long distance screamers at people 4,519 pts

Why Arsenal isn't Arsenal under Kroenke

Posted by Gunner 7 months ago · 11 replies

Kroenke is a silent, background type of person who has everyone else run things for him. It can be good sometimes but also bad if you consider how the club is run.

Kroenke never cared when we almost won the title last season or the fact that we are struggling for form because he doesn't see Arsenal as a team to help win.

He sees it as a business that he can profit from if he charges a lot of money for the tickets, if we qualify for Champions league, and of we earn him a fortune every year.

If only we got rid of him and had Usamanov step up as the owner to make our seventh most expensive club come into affect against winning leagues and titles.

I'm not saying it is all Kroenke's fault, but for me, he is one problem to get rid of

KROENKEOUT

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Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,234 pts
Posted 7 months ago by Ix Techau

I find it fascinating how many try to blame the board when they have zero insight into what the board actually thinks or how it operates. Simply put: you're not a mind reader so you actually have no idea what Kroenke thinks about Arsenal. For all you know, maybe he's in a full kit watching every single game screaming at the top of his lungs, crying himself to sleep when we lose...do you have any evidence at all this isn't the case?

Arsenal supporters are world class scapegoat hunters. It's Flamini's fault...oh he's gone, umm it's Coquelin's fault...oh he played pretty well last game, umm......it's Kroenke's fault! Yeah! I can claim anything about him and no one can disprove me, happy days! Etc.

The board is not to blame, for anything. They are business men and women, in a position of business, expected to run the club as a business. Which it is. Why do you feel it's important they're football people, when they have nothing to do with the sporting side? They don't pick starting line-ups, they don't choose training schedules, they don't identify players, they don't do any of that. Their only responsibility is making sure the club is kept afloat.

The problem at Arsenal is that we have a manager whose philosophy became outdated in 2005 and never came back into fashion.

medintern 196 pts
Posted 7 months ago by medintern

Ix, as an American who has lived in St. Louis, I will say Kroenke is known to do the absolute minimum to make his profits. This has been shown in his running of the Rams (NFL), Nuggets (NBA), and Avalanche (NHL). If they win championships during his ownership, that is a bonus, but that has NEVER been a priority of Kroenke. So Wenger and his philosophy has been completely perfect with Kroenke. He continues to make Champions League, and sells out the stadium. That is why he does not mind if your 4th paragraph is true or not (which, btw, I believe is true).

Gunner Gunners fire long distance screamers at people 4,519 pts
Posted 7 months ago by Gunner

Also, I am sorry your team isn't winning anything. I know this because I'm a Redskins fan. Feels worst than Arsenal.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,234 pts
Posted 7 months ago by Ix Techau

Ix, as an American who has lived in St. Louis, I will say Kroenke is known to do the absolute minimum to make his profits. This has been shown in his running of the Rams (NFL), Nuggets (NBA), and Avalanche (NHL). If they win championships during his ownership, that is a bonus, but that has NEVER been a priority of Kroenke. So Wenger and his philosophy has been completely perfect with Kroenke. He continues to make Champions League, and sells out the stadium. That is why he does not mind if your 4th paragraph is true or not (which, btw, I believe is true).

You're missing a vital point: Arsenal is not an American team. American sports and European sports are so far removed from each other in terms of how they work that it's not a comparison that can be made. What Kroenke does at American clubs is completely irrelevant.

I still want anyone to offer any evidence that Kroenke is some sort of problem for Arsenal. The only negative I can think of is that he hasn't sacked Wenger yet, and that's it.

Gunner Gunners fire long distance screamers at people 4,519 pts
Posted 7 months ago by Gunner

I haven't heard him declare a lot of things. Ex: if he is finding a new manager, what he expects for the club, and/or if he is helping the atmosphere at the club.

medintern 196 pts
Posted 7 months ago by medintern

You're missing a vital point: Arsenal is not an American team. American sports and European sports are so far removed from each other in terms of how they work that it's not a comparison that can be made. What Kroenke does at American clubs is completely irrelevant.I still want anyone to offer any evidence that Kroenke is some sort of problem for Arsenal. The only negative I can think of is that he hasn't sacked Wenger yet, and that's it.

I know Arsenal is not an American team, but Kroenke is running it like one. There was a good analogy between Profit maximization of American teams/owners and win maximization of European football teams/owners on reddit. Kroenke is definitively a profit maximization owner. Has been with all of his teams. I don't see him changing his strategy which is what enabled him to buy Arsenal in the first place.

Gunner Gunners fire long distance screamers at people 4,519 pts
Posted 7 months ago by Gunner

I don't mind profit as long as we can still win things and as long as profit doesn't get in the way of our success.

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Gunner Gunners fire long distance screamers at people 4,519 pts
Posted 7 months ago by Gunner

That is why teams like Chelsea and Man City were able to have success because they didn't let profit get in their way. In fact, the had no profit.

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Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,234 pts
Posted 7 months ago by Ix Techau

Kroenke is definitively a profit maximization owner.

...you mean a "business man"? Why are we assuming that Kroenke is so dumb he wouldn't realise that investing into the squad would inevitably yield greater profits? Of course he knows that, but guess who doesn't want to spend? Arsene Wenger. Several different board members have publicly declared that if Wenger wants to spend money, he can. But he chooses not to. No one is withholding funds from Wenger. There is plenty of it.

Gunner Gunners fire long distance screamers at people 4,519 pts
Posted 7 months ago by Gunner

There is plenty of it.

I can see how aggravated Arsenal fans get when we have the money and chance to get the quality we need but bottle it to profit and a lot of other factors.

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