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Seano 568 pts

Do we bring back Jenkinson?

Posted by Seano over 9 years ago · 24 replies

I was having a discussion with a friend, over a diet coke (living the dream) regarding what will happen with the RB slot next season.

I was working on the lines that Wenger still sees something in Jenko as surely he would have sold him instead of loaning him to WH? I personally think it would be a mistake to sell him, at WH he was been very good and at U-21's recently has bagged some assists and good performances with it!

I think we should bring him back to Arsenal, he has improved a lot and its nice having someone who supports the club and has a bit of fight in them!

What do you lot think about Jenks?

24 Comments

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,278 pts
Posted over 9 years ago by Ix Techau

I think the most sensible approach would be to loan Bellerin out next season to a good mid-table Premier League team so he can learn some new tricks and get more experience. That way he'll expand his skill set and make him more rounded. This would give Jenkinson one final year at Arsenal to prove his value to the team.

In this approach, when Bellerin comes back at the end of that season we'll finally know which of them to keep. And at this stage, keep in mind that Debuchy would be on the verge of turning 31, so maybe keeping both Jenkinson and Bellerin isn't such a bad idea after all.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,278 pts
Posted over 9 years ago by Ix Techau

I think the most sensible approach would be to loan Bellerin out next season to a good mid-table Premier League team so he can learn some new tricks and get more experience. That way he'll expand his skill set and make him more rounded. This would give Jenkinson one final year at Arsenal to prove his value to the team.

In this approach, when Bellerin comes back at the end of that season we'll finally know which of them to keep. And at this stage, keep in mind that Debuchy would be on the verge of turning 31, so maybe keeping both Jenkinson and Bellerin isn't such a bad idea after all.

Morleys Mesut Özil > You and your mum, chief 4,431 pts
Posted over 9 years ago by Morleys

I think he's good as gone tbh. I love the guy, but he simply isn't Arsenal standard unfortunately.

Patron Experiences frequent chest pains from watching Arsenal 5 pts
Posted over 9 years ago by Patron

We should get him back, loan Bellerin with an option to terminate loan (in case of injuries). I'm sure Jenkinson will get a lot of playing time this way, considering how injury prone Debuchy is.

I'm worried about how much playing time Chambers will get though. Gabriel is preferred over him in CB and I'm sure he'll be behind Debuchy and Jenkinson in that RB slot.

Also, apparently Jenkinson was MOTM in the England u21 match.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,278 pts
Posted over 9 years ago by Ix Techau

I'm worried about how much playing time Chambers will get though. Gabriel is preferred over him in CB and I'm sure he'll be behind Debuchy and Jenkinson in that RB slot.

Perhaps if we have Chambers as fourth-choice CB, third-choice RB and second- or third-choice DM, he'd get at least 10-12 games in a season. Although I'd prefer loaning him to a club that will use him as a first-choice CB to be honest.

Morleys Mesut Özil > You and your mum, chief 4,431 pts
Posted over 9 years ago by Morleys

He isn't injury prone at all, both of his injuries have been serious and completely out of the blue.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,278 pts
Posted over 9 years ago by Ix Techau

But it's not like his muscles are getting ripped apart. Two episodes which would injure every player, just unlucky.

Easy to blame our problems on misfortune, but there is a clear pattern to be found. I don't think Debuchy's injuries were freak occurrences at all. I find it extremely unlikely that Debuchy goes through 29 years of his life virtually injury-free, but the second he arrives at Arsenal he misses almost a full season due to lack of luck.

Morleys Mesut Özil > You and your mum, chief 4,431 pts
Posted over 9 years ago by Morleys

Oh no I agree there's something clearly wrong with our injury problems that date back for the last ten years. But Debuchy's were complete freak injuries. Dislocated shoulder from being pushed unnecessarily and a fractured ankle weren't it?

Can hardly blame Wenger & the medical team for that. Ramsey's injuries on the other hand...

VA10 Football God 4,806 pts
Posted over 9 years ago by VA10

He was pushed while in mid air and dislocated his shoulder as he landed. The other injury was a fractured ankle which was caused by his boot getting stuck in the ground as he stretched to get the ball. Nothing to do with the club, player or anything at all rather than luck...

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,278 pts
Posted over 9 years ago by Ix Techau

He was pushed while in mid air and dislocated his shoulder as he landed. The other injury was a fractured ankle which was caused by his boot getting stuck in the ground as he stretched to get the ball. Nothing to do with the club, player or anything at all rather than luck...

Well...one could argue that Debuchy made a huge decision error when dislocating his shoulder. The game had been quite rough up to then, and he should have anticipated the moronic behaviour of Stoke. There was no reason for him to jump if I recall correctly.

Anyway, my point still stands: what are the odds that someone who was virtually injury-free for 29 years immediately hurts himself the second he joins Arsenal, putting him out for almost the entire season? Misfortune is extremely unlikely, however unlucky the incidents seem to be.

AWassist 1,487 pts
Posted over 9 years ago by AWassist

Well...one could argue that Debuchy made a huge decision error when dislocating his shoulder. The game had been quite rough up to then, and he should have anticipated the moronic behaviour of Stoke. There was no reason for him to jump if I recall correctly.Anyway, my point still stands: what are the odds that someone who was virtually injury-free for 29 years immediately hurts himself the second he joins Arsenal, putting him out for almost the entire season? Misfortune is extremely unlikely, however unlucky the incidents seem to be.

LOL! Wenger destroys all the players that join the club! As soon as he signs the players first thing he thinks of must be how to get a players Injured. Oh lord! Bless these people..

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,278 pts
Posted over 9 years ago by Ix Techau

LOL! Wenger destroys all the players that join the club! As soon as he signs the players first thing he thinks of must be how to get a players Injured. Oh lord! Bless these people..

No, but let's be realistic...evidence say we have the most injuries every single year. Something is wrong at Arsenal. We have too many injuries, too consistently. That's not bad luck, that's a pattern. So when Debuchy arrives with an injury-free career and immediately injures himself out of almost a full season, it's part of a pattern. This pattern is not necessarily intentional or masterminded, but it's a pattern nonetheless.

If you go your whole life without getting the flu, and then get employed by a company notorious for its employees always getting the flu...and a week after you start you get the flu...would you think that's just bad luck? Something is definitely wrong, and although luck could have something to do with it, it's extremely unlikely - borderline impossible.

Patron Experiences frequent chest pains from watching Arsenal 5 pts
Posted over 9 years ago by Patron

VA10, doesn't matter if they are freak injuries or not, that matter of the fact is that we experience both constantly. Injuries are injuries.

Morleys Mesut Özil > You and your mum, chief 4,431 pts
Posted over 9 years ago by Morleys

Is Wenger at fault for consistent muscular injuries to Ramsey, Wilshere, Özil & co? Absolutely.

Is Wenger at fault for Debuchy's two series of unfortunate events? Absolutely not.

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