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Morleys Mesut Özil > You and your mum, chief 4,431 pts
Posted almost 5 years ago by Morleys

Theo & Jenks are as good as gone.

Ramsey has been by far the best of the lot and we're seeing a return to last seasons form.

Wilshere has been plagued by injuries and if he doesn't step up within the next 3 years I wouldn't be object to selling him. Interested to see how he plays deep alongside Coquelin.

Kieran Gibbs is a solid option at left back. I'm fine with Nacho & Gibbs.

Ox has by far the most potential, but we need to stop pissing him about and find him an actual position.

Patron Experiences frequent chest pains from watching Arsenal 5 pts
Posted almost 5 years ago by Patron

IMO, Gibbs and Theo have peaked, can't see Ramsey having a better season than 13/14, Wilshere has stalled and only Jenkinson and Chambo are the only ones currently developing.

What is this trend of assuming we're selling Theo? Can't see it happening.

I truly think he's capable of pulling a Nasri/Adebayor/van Persie.

Morleys Mesut Özil > You and your mum, chief 4,431 pts
Posted almost 5 years ago by Morleys

What is this trend of assuming we're selling Theo? Can't see it happening.

Wenger is freezing him out and he's demanding more money after being injured for the best part of two years. If we can get a player better than him like Sterling and involve him in the deal it would make sense. I for one can't see him staying whatsoever.

Patron Experiences frequent chest pains from watching Arsenal 5 pts
Posted almost 5 years ago by Patron

Honestly can't see Sterling coming to Arsenal...

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,271 pts
Posted almost 5 years ago by Ix Techau

To answer the OP's question: yes they very much have a future. We Arsenal supporters tend to quickly forget what kind of talent we have in the squad, due to this talent often spending half the season in the injury room and then the other half trying to get back into shape and form.

When fit and in form:

  • Aaron Ramsey is an excellent box-to-box midfielder that would improve most teams on the planet with his work rate and off-the-ball runs.
  • Jack Wilshere is a world class #10, explosive, unpredictable and quick-thinking.
  • Theo Walcott is unique in the sense that any team facing him would alter their behaviour just to avoid getting caught in the speed trap. He's also a sensible player and offers great width and spearheading down the right.
  • Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain is an immense talent, versatile and direct.
  • Kieran Gibbs is a great wing back, extremely attack-minded but defensively sensible as well.
  • Carl Jenkinson is a good traditional full back, perfect second-choice RB for any Premier League team.
JK 65 pts
Posted almost 5 years ago by JK

Wilshere a world class #10? Please explain, because I think we can all see the talent, but he hasn't progressed in the last two seasons. All he does is dribble, lose the ball or be on the receiving end of an ankle-breaker. It's all he does and he never learns. He hardly scores, he hardly assists. He was a huge talent when he got into the first team, now he's just not making any progress.

I do somewhat agree that Gibbs is attack-minded, but man, he couldn't deliver a good cross to save his life.

I agree with the rest. Prefer Bellerin over Jenkinson, though.

Morleys Mesut Özil > You and your mum, chief 4,431 pts
Posted almost 5 years ago by Morleys

Wilshere is far from world class. It's that delusion that makes other fans hate us tbh. There is a complete absence of intelligence and maturity in Wilshere's play.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,271 pts
Posted almost 5 years ago by Ix Techau

Wilshere a world class #10? Please explain, because I think we can all see the talent, but he hasn't progressed in the last two seasons.

*When fit and in form

Easy to forget how good Wilshere is when fit and in form. Whether or not he's capable of staying fit and in form is another discussion.

JK 65 pts
Posted almost 5 years ago by JK

Of course he is a joy to watch when he's fit, but he hasn't shown that level of performance like he did at Swansea for a long, long while. Perhaps that England game a while ago.

He isn't anywhere near world class, though. World class players are the best in the world in their positions. Wilshere doesn't even have a position yet.

Morleys Mesut Özil > You and your mum, chief 4,431 pts
Posted almost 5 years ago by Morleys

It's one game though. It's obvious he has a ridiculous amount of talent but I don't think he'll ever fulfil it. I wanna see him alongside Coquelin, cause that's his best position for me.

He isn't an intelligent enough footballer to play the number 10 role and forces the occasion far too much.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,271 pts
Posted almost 5 years ago by Ix Techau

He isn't an intelligent enough footballer to play the number 10 role and forces the occasion far too much.

I completely disagree. He's everything I look for in my preferred #10 role - quick thinking, tricky, attack-minded and full of unpredictability. When he's in form he does crazy one-twos, fantastic long range bendy passes...he has British Grit™, he has style, he has technique.

I think this is just a case of the standard Arsenal fan memory loss. We see it with Theo Walcott, we even see it with Debuchy now where people think Bellerin should start over him, etc. As soon as a player is out for a long time, people forget how good they actually are.

But again, I'm talking about fit and in form.

Morleys Mesut Özil > You and your mum, chief 4,431 pts
Posted almost 5 years ago by Morleys

I've always rated Theo and I think he's a fantastic footballer who offers some thing that is rare amongst footballers these days.

I still think Jack's best position is deep where he can use his best asset which is driving with the ball. I don't see him at a number 10 whatsoever, the chasm of quality there between him & Özil is frightening.

Patron Experiences frequent chest pains from watching Arsenal 5 pts
Posted almost 5 years ago by Patron

When Wilshere is on his game, he is unstoppable. That game he had against Man City was completely sublime. But the thing is, I really don't think he'll ever be able to produce this consistently in the future due to how prone his ankle is. I think the breakthrough season he had, will also be his demise. He was just tirelessly overplayed that season.

However, if he is able to get rid of these injuries, he could be an excellent player. I want him to succeed so badly.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,271 pts
Posted almost 5 years ago by Ix Techau

I don't see him at a number 10 whatsoever, the chasm of quality there between him & Özil is frightening.

Two completely different #10s to be fair. Ozil is measured, calm, looking for an opening, passes back if needed, makes sensible (and a bit boring) decisions. Jack Fucking Wilshere just goes for it. If there isn't an opening, he creates one. Extremely direct and attack-minded.

AWassist 1,486 pts
Posted almost 5 years ago by AWassist

Jack when fit is a TOP number 10, i love his one touch plays upfront with Giroud's and Santi's. He has a quick burst and can be very deceptive. Hopefully he can develop that understanding with Danny and Ox as well.

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