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VA10 Football God 4,805 pts

Strikers

Posted by VA10 over 3 years ago · 157 replies

I was thinking about the lack of strikers today. Is there a striker like Aguero, Suearez or Lewandowski available? Even Benzema isn't as good as them in my opinion.

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AWassist 1,486 pts
Posted over 3 years ago by AWassist

TIL half a season is 26 games and scoring 20 goalsAtm everyone at Chelsea are shit, they'll pick it up sooner or later and leave us in the dust along with City

Why so negative about Arsenal?? We were expected not to finish in top 4 if first half last year and then we almost got the second one. #positive-vibes mate

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VA10 Football God 4,805 pts
Posted over 3 years ago by VA10

Why didn't Barca sell Neymar? Will Barcelona sell Suarez? No. Will they sell Messi for 500 million? No. Will City cell Aguero for 100 million? No. Simple as that. Money doesn't buy any player. It's just illogical to suggest that! There is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more money today in football than there are good players.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,271 pts
Posted over 3 years ago by Ix Techau

Why didn't Barca sell Neymar?

They most likely will, if Man Utd can put together a good enough package.

Will Barcelona sell Suarez?

For £20m? No. For £100m? Yes.

Will they sell Messi for 500 million?

Most likely, yes. But no one has that money, so it doesn't matter.

Will City cell Aguero for 100 million?

Most likely, yes. £100m would break the global transfer record.

Money doesn't buy any player.

Not every single player on the planet, but almost.

VA10 Football God 4,805 pts
Posted over 3 years ago by VA10

So City;s owner who literally wipes his ass with money will take 100 million? Get real. He doesn't give a shit about money. Neither does Barcelona.

Here's the ultimate point: THERE IS WAY MORE MONEY IN THE GAME THAN THERE ARE QUALITY PLAYERS. END OF STORY.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,271 pts
Posted over 3 years ago by Ix Techau

So City;s owner who literally wipes his ass with money will take 100 million? Get real. He doesn't give a shit about money.

He might not, but UEFA does. With the FFP you can't just throw money around anymore. And even if you could, the Man City owners have already flexed their muscles, they are now going into Chelsea mode (stockpile talent instead of spending hundreds every season).

So yes, they would most likely sell Aguero for a world breaking transfer record.

Neither does Barcelona.

Barca are completely fucked, money-wise. They used to have access to the motherlode cheat, but now the banks are after them and they are under heavy scrutiny when it comes to transfers.

poodris 2,818 pts
Posted over 3 years ago by poodris

The players' preference also plays a substantial factor. If real gets aguero's attention, man city would not be able to hold out on a sale for too long. Better the recoup a player's fair transfer value instead of ending up like manure with de gea

VA10 Football God 4,805 pts
Posted over 3 years ago by VA10

Sure if Aguero wants to leave it's hard to stop him but to suggest that the minute you offer 100 million or so to a Sheikh whose ultimate goal is to win the Champions league he'll bite your arm off is ridiculous.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,271 pts
Posted over 3 years ago by Ix Techau

Sure if Aguero wants to leave it's hard to stop him but to suggest that the minute you offer 100 million or so to a Sheikh whose ultimate goal is to win the Champions league he'll bite your arm off is ridiculous.

You have to realise that from a club's perspective, getting £100m+ for a player is ridiculous money.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,271 pts
Posted over 3 years ago by Ix Techau

You have to realize that there's nothing they could do to that 100 million+. They're goal is to have a world class striker not 100m+ in the bank. Simple as that.

Tottenham's goal was to have a good left winger, not sell Gareth Bale. Man Utd's goal was to keep the best player in the Premier League, not sell Ronaldo to Real Madrid. Chelsea's goal was to keep Cech as their second-choice keeper, not strengthen Arsenal. Liverpool's goal was to keep one of the best strikers in the world, not sell Suarez.

And so on.

VA10 Football God 4,805 pts
Posted over 3 years ago by VA10

Tottenham are shit club with no future and Bale wold have given up his kidney to move to Real. United didn't sell Ronaldo because of the money, they sold him because he wanted out. Cech wanted to leave and Roman let him go to any club he wanted due to the service he has provided. Suarez's deal is same as Bale's. Liverpool have no future, are shit and he would have eaten Brendan Rodgers alive for that move. None of them happened like he don't want to sell but you know the money is good so let's do it. Each and every one of those players would have remained at clubs if not for their very strong desire to leave.

To be fair I can't believe a smart girl like you brought up these primitive examples. Each and every one of those moves were career developments for respected players. We're talking about buying an established footballer playing in an ambitious (one of the greatest and most likely to win trophies in Benzema's case) club and being a starter there. That's not Bale moving from Spurs to Real Madrid. Hell, Bale would have paid his own money for that transfer to have happened.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,271 pts
Posted over 3 years ago by Ix Techau

Each and every one of those moves were career developments for respected players.

Ronaldo leaving Man Utd at their prime? No. But ok some other examples of players who were still wanted and needed by their club but made a choice to go elsewhere for the money, or were sold because the deal was too good to refuse for the selling club:

  • Van Persie to Man Utd
  • Beckham to Real Madrid
  • Figo to Real Madrid
  • Zidane to...well Real Madrid again, pesky money innit?
  • Torres to Chelsea
  • Di Maria to Man Utd
  • Ibrahimovic to PSG
  • Falcao to Monaco
  • Sterling to Man City
  • Hulk to Zenit
  • Nasri to Man City

...do you want me to continue?

VA10 Football God 4,805 pts
Posted over 3 years ago by VA10

Arsene said he wanted to sell RVP cheaper abroad but RVP only wanted United and at the end we had to make a choice between keeping a plyer for one more year who didn;t want to play for us and lose him on a free or let him go. If you think Aguero's or Benzema's situation is same as RVP's or Torres' or Bekham's or FIgo's especially Di Maria's who was sold by the club or Ibra's who switches clubs for fun or Falcao's who is willing to move to Dubai for high salary and his club at the time (Atletico) was as poor as it gets or Sterling's who pushed is deal through and Liverpool didn't sell him because of good money or Nasri's who again we tried as hard as we could to keep holf of him and at the end if he would have said I want to stay we wouldn't have sold him for 25 or whatever the price was. None of those players were sold by the club because the money was good (maybe Falcao because Atletico weren't exactly a rich and succesfull club) all of them were sold because the players wanted and pushed for the move. Continue all you like.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,271 pts
Posted over 3 years ago by Ix Techau

Arsene said he wanted to sell RVP cheaper abroad but RVP only wanted United and at the end we had to make a choice between keeping a plyer for one more year who didn;t want to play for us and lose him on a free or let him go. If you think Aguero's or Benzema's situation is same as RVP's or Torres' or Bekham's or FIgo's especially Di Maria's who was sold by the club or Ibra's who switches clubs for fun or Falcao's who is willing to move to Dubai for high salary and his club at the time (Atletico) was as poor as it gets or Sterling's who pushed is deal through and Liverpool didn't sell him because of good money or Nasri's who again we tried as hard as we could to keep holf of him and at the end if he would have said I want to stay we wouldn't have sold him for 25 or whatever the price was. None of those players were sold by the club because the money was good (maybe Falcao because Atletico weren't exactly a rich and succesfull club) all of them were sold because the players wanted and pushed for the move. Continue all you like.

Amazing how you have an answer for each of those players. But you are still 100% wrong. All of those players moved clubs because the money was too good to refuse, either for themselves or for the selling club. None of them were sold because of charity.

Van Persie wanted more money. Nasri wanted more money. Beckham wanted more money. Figo wanted more money. Zidane wanted more money. Ibra wanted more money. Sterling wanted more money, and Liverpool couldn't say no to £50m even though he was basically their remaining star player.

Atletico couldn't say no to €60m for Falcao, even though he was their best striker. Real Madrid couldn't say no to £60m for Di Maria, even though he was their assist master. Liverpool couldn't say no to £50m, even though Torres was the best striker in their shitty history.

It's all about money.

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Posted over 3 years ago by (user deleted)

Toni Kroos to Madrid is another good example of how money talks.

Sam 508 pts
Posted over 3 years ago by Sam

Yep...

Anyway, still, even with a lot of money, if the player is already settled (in terms of money too) and doesn't want to move, especially to a "lower" club (Benzema), there is not much to be done I guess...

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,271 pts
Posted over 3 years ago by Ix Techau

Yep...Anyway, still, even with a lot of money, if the player is already settled (in terms of money too) and doesn't want to move, especially to a "lower" club (Benzema), there is not much to be done I guess...

There are exceptions to every rule, but ask yourself this: if someone offered you double wage to do the exact same job as you're doing now, would you not think it would be worth moving, even if it's a bit of a hassle? Besides, I doubt players think in terms of "lower" club at our level. Benzema has no loyalty to either Real Madrid or Arsenal.

VA10 Football God 4,805 pts
Posted over 3 years ago by VA10

None of those transfers had to do anything with money. Most of them would have never happened if the player didn't want to switch. Same with Kroos. Bayern didn't sell him because the money was good, he was sold because he wanted to move and when that's the case you obviously want to get the most out of the deal if you're not a masochist. Stones would have been sold 3 times by Everton already if that were the case.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,271 pts
Posted over 3 years ago by Ix Techau

Most of them would have never happened if the player didn't want to switch.

And why do you think the player wanted to switch? Boredom?

Stones would have been sold 3 times by Everton already if that were the case.

Stones will be sold when the offer becomes too good to refuse. So far Everton have been able to say no.

Morleys Mesut Özil > You and your mum, chief 4,431 pts
Posted over 3 years ago by Morleys

The new TV money means Everton don't have to sell at the price Chelsea are offering. If they offered 45-50m they'd accept it

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,271 pts
Posted over 3 years ago by Ix Techau

The new TV money means Everton don't have to sell at the price Chelsea are offering. If they offered 45-50m they'd accept it

Don't even know why it's a discussion to begin with. VA10 is basically claiming that if he works for say Carphone Warehouse and O2 offers him 30% more wages + massive bonuses for the same exact job, he'd turn it down because of some imaginary loyalty towards Carphone Warehouse that is based on nothing else than them hiring him.

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