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VA10 Football God 4,805 pts

Corrupted Officials

Posted by VA10 about 3 years ago · 28 replies

I know on the back of our game it might seem like an emotional conclusion but I don't understand why the officials are so interested in helping Chelsea? It doesn't stop there as well, the journalists are all trying to jump start their season by writing stupid articles like Cesc and Hazard are back etc. Not to mention their constant buttlicking of Jose. What are your thoughts?

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AWassist 1,486 pts
Posted about 3 years ago by AWassist

I'd call that biased, not corrupted. Corruption means structural and intentional fraud by people in power. SAF got help on the pitch, but I think that had more to do with refs being influenced by his mind-games and behaviour, not that there was some secret conspiracy amongst referees to give favour to Man Utd.

I cant agree with that! FA has reviews ref's action after the matches and Ref's should know how to deal with the situation next time(SAF pressure). Mike Riley was one of the poorest referees and is head of the PGMOB and ref's standards are here for everyone to see.
This cannot happen with out corruption or FA's i don't care attitude.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,271 pts
Posted about 3 years ago by Ix Techau

I don't think it has anything to do with helping Chelsea. I think it's human error. For example: in Chelsea's penalty situation where Gabriel dragged down some mercenary cunt in the box, you could see that from the ref's perspective it actually looked like it was the mercenary dragging Gabriel down.

We're blessed with replays, slow-mo and technology. The refs aren't. It's human error. I don't believe in some conspiracy regarding Chelsea or the league, I think it would be near impossible getting away with what Barca did in their prime here in Britain. Besides, the reason the world looked the other way when Barca were bribing match officials was because it was a great drama that ultimately gave the sport more fans = more money.

The mistake the ref did was that he obviously wanted to avoid red cards and have the game play on. We always say 'just give him a yellow and don't ruin the game', well that's exactly what he did. Problem is that Diego Costa wasn't finished with his wind-up tactics, and they worked again. Gabriel was rightly sent off, but if the ref had been fair he'd send Costa off as well for instigating.

We'll always have these situations as long as the refs are left to make decisions with no basis in facts or technology. Look at the eagle eye system...no longer is it up to the ref to make a guess whether a ball crossed the line or not, and the game is more fair and better for it. This needs to happen in all areas. We need a video ref panel that constantly feeds information to the ref on the pitch. We don't need pauses in the game. Just send him info as they go, and he can hand out retrospective fouls and cards as the game goes on.

Only then will the game become fair.

VA10 Football God 4,805 pts
Posted about 3 years ago by VA10

Yes Gabriel should not have been sent off and that's a fact. The moment Costa hit Koscielny twice + when he head butted him should have resulted in a very fast red card for him. So in other words it was Gabriel yellow Costa red but the cunt decided to give costa yellow too and then in a minute or two a red to Gabriel.

VA10 Football God 4,805 pts
Posted about 3 years ago by VA10

I've never seen anything like that before. You're talking about as if it was some minor thing. The man hit Koscielny, literally hit him twice and then headbutted him. After that he grabbed Gabriel's throat. And he gets a yellow for that?! In the past we had Cahill nearly breaking Alexis' leg but escaped the red, we had Cesc stopping a shot with his hand in the box but nothing was given, we had Mikel nearly breaking Arteta's shin but also not even a freekick. Last night Santi had 2 fouls and both resulted in yellow cards. Oscar had 4 and pretty dangerous ones as well but he somehow managed to get away from the 2nd booking.

AWassist 1,486 pts
Posted about 3 years ago by AWassist

I've never seen anything like that before. You're talking about as if it was some minor thing. The man hit Koscielny, literally hit him twice and then headbutted him. After that he grabbed Gabriel's throat. And he gets a yellow for that?! In the past we had Cahill nearly breaking Alexis' leg but escaped the red, we had Cesc stopping a shot with his hand in the box but nothing was given, we had Mikel nearly breaking Arteta's shin but also not even a freekick. Last night Santi had 2 fouls and both resulted in yellow cards. Oscar had 4 and pretty dangerous ones as well but he somehow managed to get away from the 2nd booking.

Manure Vs Arsenal, Invincible season Mike Riley as ref..Gary Nevill hunted JoseAR! Almost same situation. FA needs to wake up soon.

poodris 2,748 pts
Posted about 3 years ago by poodris

So are the corrupt officials the ones responsible for the apparent refusal to mark up on set pieces?

Omglol 3,323 pts
Posted about 3 years ago by Omglol

Wanted to write up in the EPL thread then i saw this one. All i want to say is that this is how Seria A looked 15-20 years ago. It was always human error, he didnt saw it, crazy unjustified yellows and reds, double standard criterion for fouls, refs able to swing the favor, of the game to one side or other. People say to be champion you need to have bit of luck. Well, whole year of official favoring you is hardly a luck.

Maybe its just emotional backlash, but this incidents with refs are way to often for Arsenal.

poodris 2,748 pts
Posted about 3 years ago by poodris

What justification is there for crying about costa. Everyone knows that costa spends more time trying to rIle up the opposition. To be so woefully underprepare to deal with this is a disgrace. Falling into such an obvious trap warrants whatever discipline is handed out.

Even if no one got sent off they would not have scored a goal, since they are more concerned with passing sideways than actually playing the damn game.

What's really frustrating apt this is that these results will not serve as a wake up call. They will continue to rest on their laurels and not play with any sense of urgency until the champions League place is under threat.

Pathetic.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,271 pts
Posted about 3 years ago by Ix Techau

You said it's a human error. Human error is a minor thing, happens everyday.

Well no it's not a minor thing. As I explained, I think it's a huge problem that we even allow for human error to be a factor. You're claiming Mike Dean is corrupt, insinuating that Chelsea has paid him off to officiate in their favour...but in that case why didn't he give them a penalty when Gabriel dragged that mercenary down in our box?

I simply don't believe that corruption at that level exists in the Premier League. This is not Spain or Italy. Our media, however obnoxious it can be at times, would absolutely annihilate that story if there was one.

I think it's a case of Mike Dean wanting to avoid a red card for either player, even though he should have given Diego Costa a red card on multiple occasions. And then we also have to realise that Diego Costa rarely get red cards, and he is rarely penalised for fouls. Are you saying all refs are in on some conspiracy to protect Diego Costa?

Omglol 3,323 pts
Posted about 3 years ago by Omglol

So only English media is good and honest. Spain and Italy ? Not much, all corrupted and evil. You try to present English media /Fa above Italian when one actually fight its corruption the other one close her eyes and act as if it dont exist.

One day after the game The same media, made it up as if the problem was in Arsenal and Gabriel, call us naive, mentally weak, putting one or two words for Costa and go back to bashing Arsenal.

There was major defeat for the game as sport in Chelsea vs Arsenal, no mater if its bad refereeing or corruption, the same media want this as fast as they can under the carpet with as much spin as they can. Its not first and wont be last game with so much injustice, head down and move on.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,271 pts
Posted about 3 years ago by Ix Techau

So only English media is good and honest. Spain and Italy ? Not much, all corrupted and evil.

Not about being good, nor honest. British press is ruthless, Spanish/Italian isn't. If there was the tiniest evidence of corruption in the FA, you think The Guardian wouldn't jump on that? It would be one of the biggest stories of the decade.

It really has nothing to do with the press though. Just look at Spain and Italy. The latter has been involved in numerous corruption scandals in the last ten years. Clubs being forcibly relegated for bribing officials, etc. This is not isolated to football, either. Their former prime minister Berlusconi (also owner of AC Milan) has been sentenced to a list of corrupt charges. Corruption is a way of life in Italy.

When it comes to Spain, Barcelona openly and admittedly used corrupt methods in their prime years under Laporta. They accepted bribes from South Africa to sponsor them getting the World Cup (they even do this openly in the documentary 'FC Barcelona Confidential'), they used the same tactics to get Qatar to sponsor the team. They bribed match officials (see game against Chelsea) and they had support from FIFA whilst doing so.

Can you give me a single example of anything like this ever happening in English football?

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,271 pts
Posted about 3 years ago by Ix Techau

They're corrupted alright! If you think SAF didn't get any help then you're wrong.

I'd call that biased, not corrupted. Corruption means structural and intentional fraud by people in power. SAF got help on the pitch, but I think that had more to do with refs being influenced by his mind-games and behaviour, not that there was some secret conspiracy amongst referees to give favour to Man Utd.

AWassist 1,486 pts
Posted about 3 years ago by AWassist

I'd call that biased, not corrupted. Corruption means structural and intentional fraud by people in power. SAF got help on the pitch, but I think that had more to do with refs being influenced by his mind-games and behaviour, not that there was some secret conspiracy amongst referees to give favour to Man Utd.

I cant agree with that! FA has reviews ref's action after the matches and Ref's should know how to deal with the situation next time(SAF pressure). Mike Riley was one of the poorest referees and is head of the PGMOB and ref's standards are here for everyone to see.
This cannot happen with out corruption or FA's i don't care attitude.

STUART 486 pts
Posted about 3 years ago by STUART

All the statistics show a massive bias towards Mutd in the 00s.

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