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VA10 Football God 4,805 pts

The Almighty 2015 Summer Transfer Window Thread

Posted by VA10 over 4 years ago · 476 replies

I know it's too early but I've just had a brilliant idea of an ideal Summer transfer window so I opened the thread, sue me.

So the news is we'll have 50 million quid for the Summer, here's what I'd do:

  • 10 million for Cech, he's the kind of a goalkeeper that wins you trophies
  • 40 million for Reus, love the guy
  • Khedira on a free.

Boom cancel the transfer window we've won it.

Still can't pull off a list on this contraption...

476 Comments

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,271 pts
Posted about 4 years ago by Ix Techau

Is there any reason that's acceptable why Wenger's post shouldn't be under threat if we finish 10 points behind City thus fail to challenge?

Let's see where we are in January. The stubbornness is getting tiring, but Wenger does have two FA Cup trophies in the last two years so he's obviously doing something right.

With Man City and Chelsea making the Premier League their own competition, and then Man Utd and Liverpool throwing cash around as if they won a lottery, it's unrealistic to think that we should be automatically fighting for the title. There are four tiers of quality in the Premier League:

  1. Man City and Chelsea
  2. Arsenal, Liverpool and Man Utd
  3. Most other teams
  4. Three or four guaranteed relegation candidates

It's going to take a long time to upset that balance. And until we do, we'll be fighting for third or second place, at best.

Morleys Mesut Özil > You and your mum, chief 4,431 pts
Posted over 4 years ago by Morleys

Raheem is a mega talent. He just hasn't been arsed for the second half of the season under a crackpot manager in a shit team and for good reason.

And we'd be silly not to sign Cech. He's still one of the best keepers in the World whereas ours are very average. Szcz is a better keeper than Ospina but he hasn't got the keepers mentality and he's just an imbecile. Dave isn't a great keeper, he just has an aura of calmness around him that hasn't been available for us before.

World class keepers win you points. Look at De Gea. Turning down the chance to sign Cech just because we've got Szcz and Ospina would be pure negligence in it's finest form.

Fwiw I'd sell Szcz too.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,271 pts
Posted over 4 years ago by Ix Techau

Raheem is a mega talent. He just hasn't been arsed for the second half of the season under a crackpot manager in a shit team and for good reason.

Raheem Sterling only looks good because he plays in a shit team, it's the Spurs effect. We don't need another thin midget doing tricks, the world is moving away from that. In the next few years, physicality and size will come back as dominant attributes. Raheem Sterling would have been great in 2012, but we have bigger ambitions today.

Besides, who is he replacing in the starting XI? Every single player we have is better than Sterling. Ox is much better, Wilshere is much better, Theo is much better.

And we'd be silly not to sign Cech. He's still one of the best keepers in the World whereas ours are very average.

Courtois is somehow considered the best in the world, and he has only managed to keep out four more goals than Szczesny and Ospina. So they can't be that average.

World class keepers win you points. Look at De Gea.

Actually, world class goalscorers win you points. Our defensive record is fine, what we need is more goals. That has been the difference between us and Man City or Chelsea, not the number of goals conceded. I have full faith in our defensive stability, including our keepers. What we need is more firepower.

Morleys Mesut Özil > You and your mum, chief 4,431 pts
Posted over 4 years ago by Morleys

He's not just a thin midget winger. He's essentially a wide playmaker with a burst to die for. One of the most exciting young players in football and we'd be foolish not to try and get him, but I think he's destined to play for City and he'll fulfil his massive potential there.

In regards to clean sheets, the Per - Koscielny partnership is to thank for that. Why would you not want to add solidity to that in an area which can win you points rather than a calamitous keeper in Szczesny and a midget with poor footwork and sometimes questionable decision making in Ospina?

And more firepower, that means getting an actual good striker in and not saying Giroud is good enough to start right? I fully agree.

VA10 Football God 4,805 pts
Posted over 4 years ago by VA10

I'm not suggesting that Opsina should be our number 1 but people saying he isn't a good goalie and just has a calm aura are liars. If you've ever watched him play for Nice you'd know about his abilities. He's a typical south american goalie, very good shot stopper but not the best off the line.

Morleys Mesut Özil > You and your mum, chief 4,431 pts
Posted over 4 years ago by Morleys

He's a decent keeper. Nothing more. But to not get Cech because of a 'decent' keeper is kind of ridiculous to me.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,271 pts
Posted over 4 years ago by Ix Techau

He's not just a thin midget winger. He's essentially a wide playmaker with a burst to die for. One of the most exciting young players in football and we'd be foolish not to try and get him, but I think he's destined to play for City and he'll fulfil his massive potential there.

I'll bet any amount that his career will go downwards from here. I think he's mediocre at best, and the thin midget build is outdated.

In regards to clean sheets, the Per - Koscielny partnership is to thank for that. Why would you not want to add solidity to that in an area which can win you points rather than a calamitous keeper in Szczesny and a midget with poor footwork and sometimes questionable decision making in Ospina?

Because I simply don't think Petr Cech v2015 is better than either of them. Petr Cech v2010? Sure. The latest model has just spent a year sitting on a bench, usurped by some lanky overrated 23-year old. I don't want Chelsea's sloppy seconds.

And more firepower, that means getting an actual good striker in and not saying Giroud is good enough to start right? I fully agree.

No, it means wide poachers and one more backup for our world class striker. It means we need a Neymar/Hazard/Reus type direct scoring winger instead of having to play central midfielders on the flank.

Morleys Mesut Özil > You and your mum, chief 4,431 pts
Posted over 4 years ago by Morleys

I'd deal with Giroud for another season or two if it meant Reus.

And Cech still is as good as back then. Chelsea had to make a tough decision between 2 world class keepers. Either keep the established 30 year old whose got 5 or so years left in him or put full faith in Courtois and have him in goal for another 15 years. Us signing Petr Cech would be reminiscent of United getting Van Der Sar, or us buying Lehmann. It would be one of the most important signings of the last few years, and we've made very important signings since.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,271 pts
Posted over 4 years ago by Ix Techau

I'd deal with Giroud for another season or two if it meant Reus.And Cech still is as good as back then. Chelsea had to make a tough decision between 2 world class keepers. Either keep the established 30 year old whose got 5 or so years left in him or put full faith in Courtois and have him in goal for another 15 years.

That's not true though. Courtois would have been perfectly happy being on loan at Atletico for another year, maybe even two. He was having great success and was considered one of the star players of that team. No reason for him to insist Chelsea played him this year.

Us signing Petr Cech would be reminiscent of United getting Van Der Sar, or us buying Lehmann. It would be one of the most important signings of the last few years, and we've made very important signings since.

Oh stop it. He's not that good.

Morleys Mesut Özil > You and your mum, chief 4,431 pts
Posted over 4 years ago by Morleys

I don't think Courtois would've been. He's been a standout player in the League and reached the CL final at the age of what 22? All the power was in his hands, he knew he would be a vital asset for Chelsea in the long-term and if I had them achievements and was as good as him, would I want to be on loan again? Fuck no.

And he's not better than Van der Sar was, that's fair. But he's a better keeper than Lehmann was.

Everytime he's been called upon this season Cech has produced some outstanding saves. He still has it and he'll be an amazing asset for us.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,271 pts
Posted over 4 years ago by Ix Techau

I don't think Courtois would've been. He's been a standout player in the League and reached the CL final at the age of what 22? All the power was in his hands, he knew he would be a vital asset for Chelsea in the long-term and if I had them achievements and was as good as him, would I want to be on loan again? Fuck no.And he's not better than Van der Sar was, that's fair. But he's a better keeper than Lehmann was.Everytime he's been called upon this season Cech has produced some outstanding saves. He still has it and he'll be an amazing asset for us.

Mhm, and what happens to Szczesny and Ospina?

Morleys Mesut Özil > You and your mum, chief 4,431 pts
Posted over 4 years ago by Morleys

Szczesny is nowhere near Courtois' talent though. He's been dropped because of characteristic errors and Bendtner-esque attitudes. Far different than Courtois' reasoning for being loaned out.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,271 pts
Posted over 4 years ago by Ix Techau

Szczesny is nowhere near Courtois' talent though. He's been dropped because of characteristic errors and Bendtner-esque attitudes. Far different than Courtois' reasoning for being loaned out.

Do you honestly think Szczesny agrees with not being as talented as Courtois?

Morleys Mesut Özil > You and your mum, chief 4,431 pts
Posted over 4 years ago by Morleys

No player is going to think they're that worse than another but it's evident to see that he clearly is nowhere near as good as Courtois.

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,271 pts
Posted over 4 years ago by Ix Techau

No player is going to think they're that worse than another but it's evident to see that he clearly is nowhere near as good as Courtois.

Yeah ok but even if that was true, the only perspective that matters is what Szczesny thinks. If he is offered a loan to a big club with potential for success (Monaco, Atletico, Dortmund, etc) then sure, he might grab that opportunity. But we're not exactly Chelsea, so doubt we can pull that off.

If there is a loan offer it would most probably be from Newcastle or some other mid-table shitty Premier League team, and I doubt Szczesny feels he should be demoted...because let's face it, Szczesny believes he is at the same level as Courtois. Which is both his strength and weakness.

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