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VA10 Football God 4,805 pts

The Almighty 2015 Summer Transfer Window Thread

Posted by VA10 almost 7 years ago · 476 replies

I know it's too early but I've just had a brilliant idea of an ideal Summer transfer window so I opened the thread, sue me.

So the news is we'll have 50 million quid for the Summer, here's what I'd do:

  • 10 million for Cech, he's the kind of a goalkeeper that wins you trophies
  • 40 million for Reus, love the guy
  • Khedira on a free.

Boom cancel the transfer window we've won it.

Still can't pull off a list on this contraption...

476 Comments

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,276 pts
Posted over 6 years ago by Ix Techau

Is there any reason that's acceptable why Wenger's post shouldn't be under threat if we finish 10 points behind City thus fail to challenge?

Let's see where we are in January. The stubbornness is getting tiring, but Wenger does have two FA Cup trophies in the last two years so he's obviously doing something right.

With Man City and Chelsea making the Premier League their own competition, and then Man Utd and Liverpool throwing cash around as if they won a lottery, it's unrealistic to think that we should be automatically fighting for the title. There are four tiers of quality in the Premier League:

  1. Man City and Chelsea
  2. Arsenal, Liverpool and Man Utd
  3. Most other teams
  4. Three or four guaranteed relegation candidates

It's going to take a long time to upset that balance. And until we do, we'll be fighting for third or second place, at best.

Morleys Mesut Özil > You and your mum, chief 4,431 pts
Posted over 6 years ago by Morleys

Without Benzema Madrid wouldn't have won la Decima. He would be perfect for us, far better than Giroud though in a sort of similar mould.

Mate Kiddleton 1,512 pts
Posted over 6 years ago by Mate Kiddleton

What's wrong with Griezmann? There's the 15 goal a season wide player Wenger's looking for. Plus he's been playing at striker for Atletico and knows how to find the back of the net

Morleys Mesut Özil > You and your mum, chief 4,431 pts
Posted over 6 years ago by Morleys

One of the best poachers in the world, but ok.Scored 18 goals in a notoriously hard league to score goals in, but ok.Was the best central forward at Real Madrid, but ok.Has awesome facial hair, but ok.

How many of them were pens? And notoriously hard? Luca Toni at the age of 38 got 22 in a piss poor side

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,276 pts
Posted over 6 years ago by Ix Techau

How many of them were pens? And notoriously hard? Luca Toni at the age of 38 got 22 in a piss poor side

And how many of Luca Toni's goals were penalties? Icardi? Tevez?

Anyway, you're wrong. Higuain is fantastic. When he ends 2015-2016 having scored 30 goals in his debut season for Arsenal, I want a written apology from you, in blood.

Morleys Mesut Özil > You and your mum, chief 4,431 pts
Posted over 6 years ago by Morleys

Big Luca scored the same amount of pens as Gonz

Therefore Carlitos Tevez is the best with fuckboy Icardi being an average piece of shit

VA10 Football God 4,805 pts
Posted over 6 years ago by VA10

I'm not buying into the "goals are hard to get in Seria A". Are you suggesting that a striker will find it easier to score in the Premier League? Cavani had 30+ goals for 3 consecutive seasons in Napoli. Now, a 54 year old is the top scorer in Seria A...

Ix Techau Evil Mastermind 14,276 pts
Posted over 6 years ago by Ix Techau

I'm not buying into the "goals are hard to get in Seria A". Are you suggesting that a striker will find it easier to score in the Premier League?

puts on my stats analysis hat:

Yes and no! Overall, there are more goals scored in Italy in general. But there are fewer teams capable of scoring a lot. As a collective, Italian teams score (and therefore concede) more than English or Spanish teams, and the league is more competitive in general:

  • Serie A: 51.20 avg goals scored per team. 67.20 avg goals per team in the top five, 40.66 avg goals per team in the bottom six. Top scoring team had 72 goals.

  • La Liga: 50.45 avg goals scored per team. 87.20 avg goals per team in the top five, 31.33 avg goals per team in the bottom six. Top scoring team had 118 goals.

  • Premier League: 48.75 avg goals scored per team. 69.40 avg goals per team in the top five, 34.16 avg goals per team in the bottom six. Top scoring team had 83 goals.

More goals in total doesn't necessarily mean it's easier for a striker to score, it just means there is a smaller gap between the top and bottom teams:

  • Serie A: Only a 26.54 avg goal difference between the top and bottom teams.

  • La Liga: Massive 55.87 avg goal difference between top and bottom teams, perfectly illustrating what an unbalanced two-horse race La Liga is.

  • Premier League: 35.24 avg goal difference between top and bottom teams.

From an individual's perspective it's not that much harder to score - the top five scorers in Serie A compare almost identical to the Premier League:

  • Serie A top five scorers: 19.6 avg goals per player.

  • Premier League top five scorers: 20.2 avg goals per player.

However...despite football becoming more global, and country-specific styles have become more similar, Italy is still quite weird in comparison to the rest of Europe. There is a heavy emphasis on tactics still, making it much harder for attacking players to find space and express creativity.

This helps defenders as well, as they usually have great backup from players in front of them, due to the team mentality. This is why the highest scoring team in Serie A only managed 1.89 goals per game, compared to 2.18 in the Premier League and 3.10 in La Liga.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic is a perfect example of how Serie A transforms individuals into team-centric drones. When he arrived from Ajax, he was the ultimate egocentric footballer. Everything focused on him, his creativity was key and he was doing tricks non-stop for 90 minutes every game. But just six months in Italy and all his individuality was gone.

TL;DR:

No, statistically it's not harder for a striker to score in Serie A than in the Premier League. But Italy is not about great individual moves deciding games, it's all about the collective tactical approach. Most strikers coming to Italy have to quickly adapt to this approach, they can't just keep playing like they did in Spain or England.

Morleys Mesut Özil > You and your mum, chief 4,431 pts
Posted over 6 years ago by Morleys

Or he's good at adapting to different styles and approaches, which makes him perfect to come to a new country and score 100+ goals in his debut season for Arsenal.

Like a FM06 Valeri Bojinov

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